Why don't we leave the clocks aligned with the Sun, so noon occurs at solar noon, and just have everybody agree to shift their work day to 7:00 to 4:00.
Because on a solar basis, that is exactly what you are doing.
"8 to 5" will now be "7 to 4". And people that normally work "7 to 4" will now be working "6 to 3"
That is all you are doing. You are basically just kidding yourselves. It is so extremely stupid, really. You want more sun in your evening? Get up and get to work earlier. It isn't rocket science.
I'll be waiting two years out for everyone pushing the school day to start at 10:AM, and for a lot of businesses to start at 9:AM instead of 8.
You could solve all these problems by just getting the Networks to stream their programming one hour earlier at night. And leave the clocks on standard time year round.
It is advantageous to have relatively few timezones rather than everyone using hyperlocal time. If you accept that then consider that most timezones are biased towards the point where noon is at 1200 being in the east of the region, leaving the western side with their daylight hours particularly biased towards the early morning. In some sense an adjustment to +1 merely moves the bias so that most of the region has physical noon after 1200 instead of before it, and this tends to strike a better balance because early in the morning is not considered a particularly sociable hour.
This requires essentially every business, person, and entity in existence to change hours all at the same time at least twice a year. It is far easier to just change the clock and know that a store closes at 8 than having to remember it closes at 7 starting this week. I get this is an age old retort, but it's because the common proposals always ignore reality.
-changing schedules is still a change.
-changing a single time is easier than changing infinite schedules.
-the change is going to suck either way because it's a change.
> ... and just have everybody agree to shift their work day to 7:00 to 4:00.
That "just" is doing a lot of work in this phrase. We live in an interconnected society consisting of lots of quasi independent actors organized in families, office locations, schools, businesses, and many other organizations. Coordinating a change in operating hours for _everyone_ is deceptively difficult.
If a person with a school aged kid wants to individually go to work an hour earlier relative to the sun, you're proposing that he lobbies his employer to set work hours an hour earlier, then lobbies his kid's school principal to start the school day an hour earlier so he still has time to drop his kid off, and then lobbies his favorite coffee shop to open an hour earlier so he can still sip his latte while he walks into the office. The employer has to coordinate with all of the other employees, who have to coordinate with their spouses and families and kid's schools, and favorite coffee shops. The principal has to coordinate with all of the teachers and the parents of all the other kids. The communication complexity of this scheme is exponential. Of course, there will be many opinions about how smart and stupid this change would be, so we'd also need a way to incorporate all of this feedback to make a decision that everyone will follow.
It turns out that we've already developed a method to manage the complexity of gathering feedback and making binding decisions in coordination problems like this. It's called the political system. We elect representatives to the government. Those representatives make proposals, debate those proposals, and, sometimes, pass them into binding laws that everyone has (implicitly) agreed to follow.
So yes, you're right that is "all [we] are doing". It's just that when you live in a country of over 300 million people, the most practical way of having everyone "agree" to do anything is by using the pre-established political system and passing a law. It's much more practical to pass a law that shifts the official clocks back an hour than to mandate starting and stopping times for every single organization in existence.
You seem to be under the impression that daylight saving time is a new invention?
Yeah, changing the time of solar noon doesn't change the number of daylight hours, nobody thinks it does. The point is to stop using 1:00 noon 8 months of the year, and 12:00 noon 4 months of the year, just to pick one and stick with it.
which one is easier: Doing what we do every year, and just not changing it back, or getting everyone to agree to changing their schedules independently?
You are right, they are the same thing, but one is unilateral, routine, and easy, and the other is never going to happen.
Because on a solar basis, that is exactly what you are doing. "8 to 5" will now be "7 to 4". And people that normally work "7 to 4" will now be working "6 to 3"
That is all you are doing. You are basically just kidding yourselves. It is so extremely stupid, really. You want more sun in your evening? Get up and get to work earlier. It isn't rocket science.
I'll be waiting two years out for everyone pushing the school day to start at 10:AM, and for a lot of businesses to start at 9:AM instead of 8.
You could solve all these problems by just getting the Networks to stream their programming one hour earlier at night. And leave the clocks on standard time year round.